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    easychiller ist offline Gesperrt
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    Standard 400nl:he 3bets % 10 from the blinds

    $4 NL - Holdem - 9 players

    BTN: $230.55
    SB: $623.06
    BB: $400.00
    UTG: $400.00
    UTG+1: $208.32
    MP: $381.67
    MP+1: $449.20
    Hero (LP): $671.57
    CO: $429.85

    SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

    Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero has 9 A

    fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $12.00, CO calls $12.00, fold, SB calls $10.00, BB raises to $60.00, Hero ??

    villain is 12/10/4.3 over 515. 3bet %6, blinds %10. fold bb to steal %53, ats %16. 4bet 0/17. cbet %95.
    i'm playing laggy, have a note on him that he should have a note on me that i 4bet him light

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    Zitat Zitat von easychiller Beitrag anzeigen
    i'm playing laggy, have a note on him that he should have a note on me that i 4bet him light
    so u wanna 4bet/get it in?

    4betting small is a pretty bad idea stacksize wise but could be good given your read. My read is, that a 12/10 isnt capable of what you think he is doing...

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    Zitat Zitat von Alexius Beitrag anzeigen
    so u wanna 4bet/get it in?

    4betting small is a pretty bad idea stacksize wise but could be good given your read. My read is, that a 12/10 isnt capable of what you think he is doing...


    he's a 12/10, just fold. and your sample is small enough to where his high 3bet from the blinds is most likely just variance, runnin good in the blinds.



    mhhhh

    my fold to 3bet is pretty high especially not in late position.
    if we 4bet - because of how high his 3bet is, it's only a shove?

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    hmmm... first i want to say that im just a NL25 Player and my english isnt the best.

    I think, fold is the best option here:

    If u were villain here (and u had a note, that the opener is 4bet-happy), why should u 3bet light, without beeing happy to Bluff-5bet-shove in this spot?
    Thats the reason, why i think, a small 4bet is not +ev

    And if u were villain here (again), faced with a 4bet-shove in this spot, u would ask urself, why ur opponent didnt 4bet a quite "normal" amount.

    If Villain could answer this question correctly (and thats not too complicated), he would never make a really bad mistake here.

    Also, on the other site if the coin, a 4bet-shove doesnt give u a good win/loose-Ratio imo
    I mean, a decision to 4bet-shove here gives Villain two options:
    either he will make a really good call (with e.g. AJ), if he read ur hand correctly or he'll fold the better hand (EV = 0)
    So u will see him either folding, whats slightly +EV for u, or u see a call with a hand u dont want to see imo (---EV)

    I hope, u understand, what im trying to say (with my bad english)

    And remember, im just a NL25 grinder - all of my thoughts could be bullshit.... ;-)

    Joey
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    Mir fällt gerade ein, dass ich vielleicht einfach so viel Geld einzahlen sollte, dass ich das BRM nicht mehr missachten KANN, weil ich dann ganz legitim auf den höchsten Limits spiele (und es dann auch nicht mehr möglich ist, noch höher zu gehen).

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    Zitat Zitat von easychiller Beitrag anzeigen
    he's a 12/10, just fold. and your sample is small enough to where his high 3bet from the blinds is most likely just variance, runnin good in the blinds.



    mhhhh

    my fold to 3bet is pretty high especially not in late position.
    if we 4bet - because of how high his 3bet is, it's only a shove?
    wtf stop smokin too much plz

    [X] schizo ITT

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    [QUOTE=JoeyChaoz;208091]hmmm... first i want to say that im just a NL25 Player and my english isnt the best.

    I think, fold is the best option here:

    If u were villain here (and u had a note, that the opener is 4bet-happy), why should u 3bet light, without beeing happy to Bluff-5bet-shove in this spot?
    Thats the reason, why i think, a small 4bet is not +ev

    And if u were villain here (again), faced with a 4bet-shove in this spot, u would ask urself, why ur opponent didnt 4bet a quite "normal" amount.

    If Villain could answer this question correctly (and thats not too complicated), he would never make a really bad mistake here.

    Also, on the other site if the coin, a 4bet-shove doesnt give u a good win/loose-Ratio imo
    I mean, a decision to 4bet-shove here gives Villain two options:
    either he will make a really good call (with e.g. AJ), if he read ur hand correctly or he'll fold the better hand (EV = 0)
    So u will see him either folding, whats slightly +EV for u, or u see a call with a hand u dont want to see imo (---EV)

    I hope, u understand, what im trying to say (with my bad english)

    And remember, im just a NL25 grinder - all of my thoughts could be bullshit.... ;-)




    go better play nl10








    Zitat Zitat von Alexius Beitrag anzeigen
    wtf stop smokin too much plz

    [X] schizo ITT




    you too

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